I have seen all the gundam shows that are released except “SD Gundam”(Couldn’t watch it), Evolve(too unconnected/disjointed)

Except GGundam all other shows were fine , The thing about GGundam is it was too funny some times/unrealistic except that they tried explaining those stuff with nano machines stuff,even then it was a totally weird Gundam Show.

Turn a Gundam Started off well actually but at the end with this butterfly stuff seriously faltered

I also watched many of the votoms stuff,they were equally amazing

Fafner was also good to an extent

Coming back to Gundam i have only one thing to say
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Comparing Gundam 79 with Gundam 00 saying that Gundam 79 has poor animation is amateurish as all know that earlier one was created in 70′s and the technology available today is vastly superior than those available in the past.
People who say that 00 is worse are equally stupid as OO really connects to current reality with US acting like a big brother and stuff and the warring island of Ceylon

In short each Gundam series including the OVAs and the animated films are really interesting and are not dumb like the other anime hugely popular series that going around like “Bleach”(How many times does ichigo get to protect soul society,so stupid monotonous,moronic infact)

Super Robots are awesome! GaoGaiGar IS awesome! Gurren Lagann is Awesome! Even The Great Mazinger series and GETTER ROBO is awesome!

They’re silly! Insane! Make no sense! But OH SO AWESOME.

I wonder if the more damaging association is the audience-related hipster one – that is, “those who like X show are this sort of person; I do/do not see myself as this sort of person.”

But still I can understand why there will be Gundam fans and others who cannot appreciate certain shows of the franchise. The franchise is not obligated to please any fan; it has to constantly innovate (hmm…) and seek ways to reach out to potential fans.

And as far as the Gundamfaggotry goes, it’s really just a maturity issue, isn’t it?

Declining birthrates in Japan mean a smaller market. Combine this with the increasing exposure/sophistication of the established fans (the more they consume the archives), specific yet varied preferences will develop.

Ergo, they won’t be able to please everyone. The targeted Gundam hate you keep on talking about is just the cost of doing business. It just results in even more attention and makes the protective Gundamfags buy more Gundam-related products. Sunrise will take this hate all the way to the bank.

Anyway, some people definitely never gave certain Gundam series a chance and it’s especially evident with the most recent one. I think people know the ones I am talking about. Personally I think if you go into a Gundam series with the attitude, “I’m going to hate on this and that and support this and if it’s not like x Gundam series then it sucks” and then proceed to bash everything about it then not only are you not a true Gundam fan, but you can’t even be said to have and open mind.

I’m glad there there are starting to be more calls from people like those in this topic for at the very least some common sense and reason when it comes to approaching Gundam and whatever is in store for it’s future. It would really suck if the future of Gundam fandom was just western fans trashing every new series that comes out.

@ghostlightning: I think they’ve been doing just that. They’ve been trying new things and hopefully that means seeing what fans will accept story and AU wise and what they won’t and will be applying it. Contrary to the popular belief they’ve always been an experimental company that is willing to take risks every now and then on both the business venture and storytelling side. Of course there are those that will never appreciate that and will all but directly demand that they do the same type of series from them that they liked over and over again, but then those people are a lost cause anyway and not to mention not very open minded.

@Kiri: The popular quips are actually more along the lines of the insidious “bad writing” and “ridiculous”, and I think it’s safe to say that for every thought out criticism that makes use of the these terms, there is one person who busts them out just because it’s in vogue. There are so many times where somebody has called something “bad writing” in Gundam and that other show despite the fact that there was a perfectly obvious and reasonable explanation for why the script ended up flowing the way it did and/or the character was actually behaving in character, just on a level that is independent from their archetype. It’s as cliche as saying “bad writing” is in itself, but the term has basically just come to mean any plot event or character action that a person doesn’t approve of and doesn’t want to seem like the person who is spoiling the party by grousing about it. So they shift the blame onto the writers and then it becomes their problem and people have to address the persons grievance from that perspective.

I don’t think I have to mention how unsettling and unfortunate I happen to find this trend by itself.

G Gundam was hated when it first came out. Why? It was a super robot show! Just do an image search of the “Nether Gundam,” or the “Tequila Gundam” and you’ll understand the uproar.

It’s the same with Wing, where the franchise started courting new fans as opposed to merely fellating the old ones. “Don’t suck the n00bs cocks! Don’t you want us anymore?! Y U DO DIS?”

Yeah, that’s the kind of butthurt nobody admits to experiencing.

For better or worse, Sunrise/Bandai has to expand the fanbase because old fans will hardly ever agree on anything. There will be always those who will stomp on the latest show and be loud and obnoxious about it. Wing still sucks though.